{"id":3564,"date":"2016-11-14T09:18:01","date_gmt":"2016-11-14T09:18:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lettropolis.fr\/Blog\/?p=3564"},"modified":"2016-11-14T09:18:01","modified_gmt":"2016-11-14T09:18:01","slug":"apres-lon-aura-lu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lettropolis.fr\/Blog\/2016\/11\/14\/apres-lon-aura-lu\/","title":{"rendered":"APR\u00c8S QUE L&#8217;ON AURA LU CELA"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_3565\" style=\"width: 618px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3565\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3565\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lettropolis.fr\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/PANDAT-G\u00c9ANT.png\" alt=\"La surprise du panda-g\u00e9ant\" width=\"608\" height=\"536\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lettropolis.fr\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/PANDAT-G\u00c9ANT.png 608w, https:\/\/www.lettropolis.fr\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/PANDAT-G\u00c9ANT-300x264.png 300w, https:\/\/www.lettropolis.fr\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/PANDAT-G\u00c9ANT-600x529.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 608px) 100vw, 608px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3565\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">La surprise du panda-g\u00e9ant<\/p><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fr.news.yahoo.com\/video-chine-voulait-frotter-%C3%A0-panda-impressionner-copine-202818177.html\">https:\/\/fr.news.yahoo.com\/video-chine-voulait-frotter-%C3%A0-panda-impressionner-copine-202818177.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Le 2016 10 30<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Apr\u00e8s avoir lu le texte de cette information, apr\u00e8s que j\u2019eus lu le texte de cette information\u2026 me vint l\u2019id\u00e9e de le corriger\u00a0:<\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Apr\u00e8s qu\u2019un de leurs visiteurs se fut introduit dans l\u2019enclos<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">En effet<em>, apr\u00e8s que<\/em> impose le mode indicatif. Pourquoi\u00a0? Parce que l\u2019action a d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9alis\u00e9e, qu\u2019il n\u2019y a plus rien \u00e0 y changer, elle est fix\u00e9e dans le pass\u00e9. Au contraire le mode subjonctif \u00e9voque diff\u00e9rentes hypoth\u00e8ses, des futurs possibles, probables, jusqu&#8217;\u00e0 l&#8217;irr\u00e9alit\u00e9. Que vienne un martien\u2026 par exemple.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Mais, dira-t-on, si nous envisageons maintenant une histoire \u00e0 venir, un plan d\u2019action dont nous r\u00e9sumons les \u00e9tapes au mode indicatif, que se passe-t-il, grammaticalement parlant\u00a0? L\u2019action n\u2019est pas encore r\u00e9alis\u00e9e, donc sujette \u00e0 variations, \u00e0 hypoth\u00e8ses. <em>Apr\u00e8s que<\/em> suivi du subjonctif serait-il possible\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">R\u00e9ponse\u00a0: Certes, le plan dont il est question est dict\u00e9 actuellement, mais pour qu\u2019il soit complet, chaque action doit \u00eatre r\u00e9alis\u00e9e, quel qu\u2019en soit le nombre.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Enregistrons (l\u00e9galement) ce dialogue\u00a0:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">B\u00e9bert d\u2019Anvers\u00a0: Tu te magnes, t\u2019enfonces la lourde.<br \/>\nJojo le Danseur\u00a0: Si qu\u2019elle r\u00e9siste\u00a0?<br \/>\nB\u00e9bert d\u2019Anvers\u00a0: Veux pas le savoir. Apr\u00e8s qu\u2019elle est ouverte, tu t\u2019occupes du coffiot.<br \/>\nJojo le Danseur\u00a0: Au chalumeau, j\u2019aurai vite fait.<br \/>\nB\u00e9bert d\u2019Anvers\u00a0: Apr\u00e8s qu\u2019tu l\u2019auras \u00e9trip\u00e9, on d\u00e9carre\u00a0? Vu\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Nous mettrons un z\u00e9ro en morale \u00e0 B\u00e9bert d\u2019Anvers, mais un bon point pour l\u2019usage d\u2019<em>apr\u00e8s que<\/em> suivi de l\u2019indicatif, bien qu\u2019un peu lourd, et peu fluide.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Et que se passerait-il en racontant une histoire au pass\u00e9 en style indirect\u00a0? Eh bien\u00a0! La m\u00eame d\u00e9marche logique, avec un peu plus de coh\u00e9rence des temps\u00a0:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>B\u00e9bert disait \u00e0 Jojo qu\u2019apr\u00e8s qu\u2019il aurait ouvert la porte, et qu\u2019apr\u00e8s qu\u2019il aurait \u00e9trip\u00e9 le coffre-fort, ils n\u2019auraient qu\u2019\u00e0 d\u00e9carrer \u00e0 toute vibure.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">B\u00e9bert a fait des progr\u00e8s en grammaire. Il emploie maintenant le futur du pass\u00e9 qui a la m\u00eame forme que le conditionnel (et bien des similitudes de pens\u00e9e). Mais pour l\u2019honn\u00eatet\u00e9\u2026 Hum\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Offrons-lui quelques portes de sortie\u2026 grammaticales. Si l\u2019emploi de cet <em>apr\u00e8s que<\/em> lui para\u00eet d\u00e9licat, ou lourd, si la r\u00e9p\u00e9tition des <em>que<\/em> heurte son go\u00fbt d\u00e9licat, qu\u2019il choisisse plut\u00f4t <em>apr\u00e8s avoir<\/em> (et l\u2019infinitif), <em>une fois<\/em> (l\u2019objet devenant sujet et le verbe au participe pass\u00e9)\u00a0:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Apr\u00e8s avoir ouvert la porte<\/em>.<br \/>\n<em>Une fois la porte ouverte.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ensuite, restent toutes les ressources de la langue fran\u00e7aise. On les lui laisse d\u00e9couvrir. Il a cinq ans au chaud pour cela.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Apr\u00e8s que&#8221; et le subjonctif font mauvais m\u00e9nage. Entre un panda g\u00e9ant surprenant et les souvenirs de B\u00e9bert d&#8217;Anvers, nous devrions retenir l&#8217;indicatif. <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.lettropolis.fr\/Blog\/2016\/11\/14\/apres-lon-aura-lu\/\">Suite <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_s2mail":"yes","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[23,347],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3564","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-r2","category-demain-sans-faute"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>APR\u00c8S QUE L&#039;ON AURA LU CELA - Lettropolis<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.lettropolis.fr\/Blog\/2016\/11\/14\/apres-lon-aura-lu\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"APR\u00c8S QUE L&#039;ON AURA LU CELA - Lettropolis\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"&quot;Apr\u00e8s que&quot; et le subjonctif font mauvais m\u00e9nage. 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