{"id":1911,"date":"2012-09-02T20:53:19","date_gmt":"2012-09-02T20:53:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lettropolis.fr\/Blog\/?p=1911"},"modified":"2012-09-02T20:53:19","modified_gmt":"2012-09-02T20:53:19","slug":"exprimer-la-condition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lettropolis.fr\/Blog\/2012\/09\/02\/exprimer-la-condition\/","title":{"rendered":"EXPRIMER LA CONDITION"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\">La lecture de certains textes et les discussions professionnelles nous rappellent des difficult\u00e9s du fran\u00e7ais. L&#8217;expression de la condition en fait partie.<br \/>\nVoici donc nombreuses formes pour \u00ab\u00a0s&#8217;en sortir\u00a0\u00bb.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\">Nous notons C+, la condition qui, si elle se r\u00e9alise, provoque l&#8217;action pr\u00e9vue (not\u00e9e A+)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\">La formule g\u00e9n\u00e9rale pourrait s&#8217;\u00e9crire :\u00a0\u00a0 C+ \u2192 <span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">A+<\/span><br \/>\nC+ et A+ seront des actions, simples, toujours les m\u00eames, choisies pour utiliser les verbes auxiliaires \u00eatre et avoir si n\u00e9cessaire.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\">C+\u00a0: action de venir\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 A+\u00a0: action de partager<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\">Autres abr\u00e9viations\u00a0: <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\">REM remarque<br \/>\nSUJ sujet\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 VB verbe<br \/>\nINF\u00a0: infinitif<br \/>\nCOND conditionnel<br \/>\nCOND PAS1F conditionnel pass\u00e9 premi\u00e8re forme<br \/>\nCOND PAS2F conditionnel pass\u00e9 deuxi\u00e8me forme<br \/>\nSUBJ subjonctif<br \/>\nPART participe<br \/>\nPT pr\u00e9sent<br \/>\nPAS pass\u00e9<br \/>\nPAS COMP pass\u00e9 compos\u00e9<br \/>\nIMPFT imparfait<br \/>\nPQP FT plus-que-parfait<br \/>\nPFT parfait (ou pass\u00e9 simple)<br \/>\nPAS ANT pass\u00e9 ant\u00e9rieur<br \/>\nF futur<br \/>\nF ANT futur ant\u00e9rieur<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; color: #000080;\"><strong>FORMULATION UTILISANT L&#8217;INF<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><strong>(Si) lui venir, lui partager<\/strong><br \/>\nC+ INF \u2192 A+ INF<br \/>\nREM Charabia<br \/>\nC+ et A+ se passent dans des temps impr\u00e9cis<br \/>\nNe pas employer sauf dans une dialogue sp\u00e9cifique<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">FORMULATIONS UTILISANT \u00ab\u00a0SI\u00a0<\/span>\u00bb<\/strong><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\"><strong>(LE CAS LE PLUS FR\u00c9QUENT)<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><strong>1\/ S&#8217;il vient, il partage<\/strong><br \/>\nC+ IND PT \u2192 A+ IND PT<br \/>\nREM\u00a0: C+ et A+ peuvent se passer dans le pr\u00e9sent (maintenant) ou dans le futur, proche ou lointain.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\"><strong>2\/ S&#8217;il vient, il partagera<\/strong><br \/>\nC+ IND PT \u2192<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">A+ IND F<\/span><br \/>\nREM\u00a0: C+ peut se passer dans le pr\u00e9sent, ou le futur<br \/>\nAvec \u00ab\u00a0si\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0: pas d&#8217;IND F pour exprimer le futur +++<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\">\u00a0<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">3\/<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\"><strong> S&#8217;il venait, il partagerait<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\nC+ IND IMPFT <span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">\u2192<\/span> A+ COND PT<br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">REM\u00a0: C+ et A+ peuvent se passer <\/span>dans le pr\u00e9sent (maintenant) ou dans le futur, proche ou lointain.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><strong>4\/ S&#8217;il \u00e9tait venu, il aurait partag\u00e9<\/strong><br \/>\nC+ IND PQPFT <span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">\u2192<\/span>A+ COND PAS1F<br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">C+ et A+ peuvent se passer <\/span>dans le pr\u00e9sent (maintenant) ou dans le pass\u00e9, proche ou lointain.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><strong>5\/ S&#8217;il \u00e9tait venu, il e\u00fbt partag\u00e9<\/strong><br \/>\nC+ IND PQPFT <span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">\u2192<\/span> A+ COND PAS2F<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\"><strong>REM<\/strong><br \/>\nPour exprimer au mieux la condition, il faut articuler le temps grammatical utilis\u00e9, et le temps dans lequel l&#8217;action (les actions) se passe(nt).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\">Ainsi, C+ ne se met jamais \u00e0 l&#8217;IND F, m\u00eame si la C+ se passe (doit se passer) dans le futur +++ <span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">(et surtout pas\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">m\u00eame si la C+ se passera\u00a0\u00bb<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">)<\/span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"color: #000080; font-size: x-large;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\"><strong><br \/>\nFORMULATIONS AVEC \u00ab\u00a0SI\u00a0\u00bb SOUS-ENTENDU<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\"><strong>REM<\/strong><br \/>\nDans ces formulations, il peut arriver qu&#8217;apparaissent des nuances nouvelles ou des risques de confusions de modes. En pratique il il faudra faire varier\u00a0:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\">&#8211; la succession des mots\u00a0:<br \/>\nSUJ + VB<br \/>\nVB + SUJ (inversion)<br \/>\n&#8211; Le mode utilis\u00e9\u00a0:<br \/>\nIND<br \/>\nSUBJ<br \/>\n&#8211; Le temps utilis\u00e9 (outre les temps d\u00e9j\u00e0 vus)<br \/>\nPART PT<br \/>\nPART PAS<br \/>\n<strong>6\/ Il viendrait, il partagerait<br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">7\/ Viendrait-il, (qu&#8217;) il partagerait<\/span><br \/>\n8\/ Il serait venu, il aurait partag\u00e9<br \/>\n9\/ Il vient, il partage<\/strong><br \/>\nREM\u00a0: risque de confusion avec une narration affirmant deux faits comme r\u00e9alis\u00e9s<br \/>\n<strong>10\/ Il vient, il partagera<\/strong><br \/>\nREM\u00a0: cf supra<br \/>\n<strong>11\/ Il venait, il partageait<\/strong><br \/>\nREM\u00a0: cf supra<br \/>\n<strong>12\/ Vient-il, il partage<\/strong><br \/>\nREM\u00a0: risque de confusion avec une question.\u00a0 Importance de la typographie\u00a0: pas de point d&#8217;interrogation ici.<br \/>\n<strong>13\/ Venait-il, il partageait<br \/>\n14\/ Serait-il venu, il partageait<br \/>\n15\u00a0: Il f\u00fbt venu, il e\u00fbt partag\u00e9<\/strong><br \/>\nREM\u00a0: il s&#8217;agit ici du COND PAS2F \u00e0 ne pas confondre avec l&#8217;IND PAS ANT<br \/>\n<strong>16\/ Qu&#8217;il vienne, il partage, il partagera<\/strong><br \/>\nREM\u00a0: (risque de confusion avec l&#8217;imp\u00e9ratif\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0qu&#8217;il vienne\u00a0!\u00a0\u00bb<br \/>\nImportance de la typographie\u00a0: r\u00f4le du point d&#8217;exclamation.<br \/>\n<strong>17\/ Qu&#8217;il v\u00eent, il partageait<br \/>\n18\/ Qu&#8217;il f\u00fbt venu, il partageait, il e\u00fbt partag\u00e9<br \/>\n19\/ Lui venant, il partage, il partagera<br \/>\n20\/ Lui venu, il partageait<br \/>\n21\/ Lui \u00e9tant venu, il e\u00fbt partag\u00e9<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>AUTRES FORMULATIONS<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\">Tous les exemples pr\u00e9c\u00e9dents peuvent \u00eatre utilis\u00e9es en formes n\u00e9gatives, interro-n\u00e9gatives, lors de narrations, de discours direct ou indirect.<br \/>\nN&#8217;est-ce pas que s&#8217;il n&#8217;\u00e9tait pas venu il n&#8217;aurait pas partag\u00e9\u00a0?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\"><strong>REM<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\">La s\u00e9quence C+ \u2192A+ (ou A+ \u2192 C+) peut aussi s&#8217;exprimer en utilisant d&#8217;autres nuances qui pr\u00eateraient \u00e0 discussion de style. R\u00e9fl\u00e9chissons seulement sur la diff\u00e9rence entre \u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0s&#8217;il vient, il partage\u00a0\u00bb, et \u00ab\u00a0sa venue conditionne le partage\u00a0\u00bb.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\"><strong>REM<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"> Voici quelques locutions pour s&#8217;entra\u00eener \u00e0 moduler les conditions et leurs cons\u00e9quences\u00a0:<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\">\u00e0 (la) condition que (+ SUBJ)<\/span><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><br \/>\n\u00e0 moins que (+ SUBJ)<br \/>\n\u00e0 supposer que (+ SUBJ)<br \/>\nalors m\u00eame que (+ COND)<br \/>\nau cas o\u00f9 (+ COND)<br \/>\ndans l&#8217;hypoth\u00e8se o\u00f9 (+ COND, ou + IND)<br \/>\ndans la mesure o\u00f9 (+ IND, ou + COND)<br \/>\ndans le cas o\u00f9 (+ COND ou IND)<br \/>\nen admettant que (+ SUBJ)<br \/>\nen supposant que (+ SUBJ)<br \/>\nm\u00eame si (+ IND)<br \/>\npour le cas o\u00f9 (+ COND ou + IND)<br \/>\npour peu que (+ SUBJ)<br \/>\npourvu que (+ SUBJ)<br \/>\nquand m\u00eame (+ COND)<br \/>\nQuand bien m\u00eame (+ COND ou + IND)<br \/>\nsauf si (+ IND)<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\"><strong><\/p>\n<p><\/strong><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; color: #000080;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\"><strong>CAS PARTICULIER<\/strong><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\"><br \/>\nSi l&#8217;on tient vraiment \u00e0 pr\u00e9ciser que C+ doit se passer dans le futur, ne pas employer l&#8217;IND FUT mais\u00a0:<br \/>\n&#8211; soit pr\u00e9ciser le d\u00e9lai\u00a0: s&#8217;il vient (s&#8217;il venait) demain&#8230;<br \/>\n&#8211; soit une verbe explicatif au pr\u00e9sent\u00a0: s&#8217;il doit peut) venir, s&#8217;il est dans ses intentions de venir, il partagera&#8230;<br \/>\n(idem avec \u00ab\u00a0m\u00eame si&#8230;\u00a0\u00bb<\/span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000080; font-size: x-large;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\"><strong>CONCLUSION (PROVISOIRE)\u00a0:<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif;\">Les diff\u00e9rentes nuances de la supposition r\u00e9alisable ou non, de l&#8217;imaginaire, etc. n&#8217;ont pas \u00e9t\u00e9 trait\u00e9es ici. Elles d\u00e9pendent du contexte et du souhait de l&#8217;auteur.<\/span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman,serif; font-size: x-large;\">Avec les compliments de Lettropolis, \u00e9dition num\u00e9rique de textes num\u00e9ris\u00e9s appel\u00e9s OLNIs\u00ae (Objet Litt\u00e9raire Naviguant sur Internet)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La lecture de certains textes et les discussions professionnelles nous rappellent des difficult\u00e9s du fran\u00e7ais. L&#8217;expression de la condition en fait partie. Voici donc nombreuses formes pour \u00ab\u00a0s&#8217;en sortir\u00a0\u00bb. 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